@JtotheG317

Like the video says, my head agrees with Tommy, my heart agrees with Roman.
Another consideration, the BFGs are too heavy for this rig. Get a P rated A/T tire like the geolander so you can improve traction without all the weight.
Roman is right, Subaru is leaving $ on the table by not offering a legit off road subaru.

@alexkostenyuk

Subaru needs to bring Baja back since people started lifting their Subaru’s

@NotRelevant1

This is simply a difference of the definition of off road. Can a lifted Subaru rock crawl like a built out jeep, no, will it give you better ground clearance off road and on some rougher terrain, yes.

@chrluc

I have a Crosstrek wilderness, I traded in my Cherokee Trailhawk for 2 main reasons, I was flat out tired of the costly repairs (well over $10,000, and it only had 100,000 miles on it) and the crappy gas mileage. Jeep quality had REALLY gone downhill with their quality! I have absolutely no intentions of rock crawling. If I did, I wouldn’t use my daily driver for that. I got the Subaru because it holds its value, it reliable, gets very good gas mileage, and it’s more than capable enough at the overlanding I’m interested in. As mentioned in the video, the number one thing to can do to your vehicle to increase performance is get better tires, well sometime to get those better tires to fit, a lift might be necessary. I don’t have plans at this time to lift my Crosstrek, but I don’t see why anyone would have an issue with what I or anyone else wants to do with our vehicles. They’re built to handle a rooftop tent, it has 9.3 inches of ground clearance stock, can tow 3500 lbs. It’s a decently capable vehicle. Not everyone that goes off-road wants or needs to crawl over boulders.

@GeoffreyEvans-z9h

I have a lifted/wheel/KO2 tire/bash-plate equipped Forester (pre CVT and in my case, manual with a slightly low range) and if you turn off traction control (standard feature in cabin) you'd be AMAZED at what you can do with it off road. If I put lockers on it (available) it can kind of rock crawl, but rock crawling isn't really my thing. I wanted it to drive across the Australian outback as a tourer capable of crossing creeks and mud and dirt and sand, not for climbing rock ledges in a show of my "off road prowess" and for that purpose, it's 100% off road capable. Much easier to live with than some primitive jeep too. I'm not on a late model SUV luxo-barge budget either. I have less than $6000 USD in this thing.

@bullaaron

Here in WV there are a lot of forest roads and trails you can drive on in a Subaru without even lifting it that you can't drive a regular car on. So lifted or not they are super useful.

@CostaTol

I have an Ascent Onyx Edition with BFG Trail Terrain tires, rock rails and 3 skid plates and it goes everywhere I need it too and does it with ease.

It's well protected....and looks amazing.

But I ain't ever taking it rock crawling...

I do snow, sand mud and gravel.....and it's perfection

@michaelmyers3892

I have a 2002 Subaru outback all-wheel-drive really nice quality two and a half inch suspension lift coming in soon, brand new struts sway bars stronger axle shafts and just an easy upgrade then I'm going for full skid plating underneath it this way when I go back to Colorado I can do all the things I've always loved about the Rocky mountains

@johnneunuebel5765

As someone considering purchase of first Subaru; thanks!  Great commentary-

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I can't believe the younger of the two is against a lifted Subaru??? I'm 24 myself and have a lifted 2005 forester xt

@johnl.8616

Subaru now has the Onyx Outback. A bit too much money and still lacking a panoramic sunroof. Air suspension would go a long way so you could air down on highway and air up on offroads. Putting a feature on X Mode to lock differentials would be huge. And like you say a CVT offroad just isn't going to cut it unless they figure something else out. I feel that a CVT is a stepping stone to something better.

@thegoodguysteve

Just search offroad forester and there’s tons of crazy videos of foresters going in crazy places

@MrBuskid

I have 2009 Subaru Forester on a primitive 2 inch equipped King springs, with a torq locker installed 4EAT not a CVT. I have never not made it up any hill that I have pointed the car at.

@Sniper_Cat_71

2:06  I saw a Crosstrek exactly like that at the Cheyenne Wyoming Walmart around Christmas and I thought it was pretty bad ass looking.  First Crosstrek I ever actually liked. My Xterra doesn't come stock with 285 mud tires, but I'm going to make them fit....

@EdwardDore-g8h

Is a Subaru meant to be a rock crawler no, are they meant to go off road to a certain extent yes, why else would they create the Wilderness models, Subaru just did what people have been doing to their own Subarus for years, I've watched multiple videos and yes the CVT is definitely the weakness in the wilderness models, but I can tell you driving an Outback with a turbo is a blast to drive, I think it balances out

@bernarddykast9026

The think is that subarus are made for traveling and easy-medium offroading. And if you want to travel and explore, 90% of time there will be a dirt/gravel/muddy road, and subarus are good for that and it is enought. If you want to go to some crazy offroad ( for some reason) why would you buy an outbach or forester in the first place? These cars are good in 90% of terrain you will normaly encounter, they are just not rock crawlers

@jonathanporter5223

If you're going to lift your Outback, might as well swap the motor to a 2.5 turbocharged STI with 6 speed manual transmission. Gets rid of that CVT crap. Less computer BS, less transmission limiting problems. Then I bet you make it up plenty of different offroad terrain.

@operatornaut8534

Yeah nah, Lifting a Subaru doesnt have to be a rocket crawler. 
Im lifting mine to give more clearance and a more aggressive tire thats 2in larger then stock. Mostly so I can go over streams, decently deep water ways that lower ground cars cant do, and to give me a terrain grip boost to climb over things like minor rocked streams and mud. And for that, It works. Among other modifications ill be doing to make it more capable.

Its definetly not going to crawl over any steep rocks, etc.

@Away907

Let's say if I go to one of my favourite places, which is 185 miles away from my home, where 100 miles are highways, 80 miles of twisted mountain road and 5 miles of rock crawling, I will choose a Subaru or any other SUV over Tacoma or Wrangler:
First of all, I will do these first 180 miles in comfort and safety, with reasonable MPG. 
Then, doing that last 5 mile trail in crossover/SUV is a challenge, while it's simply boring in wrangler: no need for driving skill, when you so over-geared for the encounter. I simply don't know a single reasonable destination in a 250-mile radius of the SF Bay Area, which will push the stock Jeep to its limits (and I indeed do explore a lot of roads, looking for fishing places).
And the last reason - need to see the face of wrangler folks when they come to their favourite campsite and see your SUV already taken the spot.

@lance_r72

TFL was cut off by Subaru for taking their rigs offroad. This alone plainly shows modern Subaru's arent meant for real offroading., just light trails and dirt roads. New Subbies aren't made for much past a dirt road. I have to agree with Tommy.