@mhbarney8499
I feel proud of having all 3 units with there signature weapon. They are all great units...just not broken...and that prevents powercreep. 🎉
@PhantomZwei
It’s so strange. Roccia gets so much slander from people hyper-focused on two modes of play, one of which she’s literally one of the best units in the game for (WiWa of course). Yes, if you look at Roccia as a buff bot for Camellya she’s nothing special at RC1, but that ignores so much of her potential use in a game that is far more vast than ToA or WiWa. Roccia is THE most comfortable overworld character to run with in the game IMO. Build her for damage and she decimates all minion enemies with her skill+forte combo. Have any primary DPS to swap to for tankier elites still standing and you’re done in seconds with any group, even if they’re spread out in ways that other characters struggle with. Echo farming becomes a mama mia jaunt. Exploration is a pogo parade. This isn’t to disparage your opinion on the matter, to be clear. It’s just asserting that Roccia to me is severely underrated in what she’s capable of because too many people look at buff numbers and field time compared to Sanhua that is only really relevant in ToA since Roccia already curbstomps WiWa, the only other mode where time is relevant. Roccia does things Sanhua can’t, and that is too often overlooked. And to be clear, I think Sanhua is fantastic, too.
@adrianmedina4113
I actually like Roccia a lot, mostly for overworld. She's incredible for echo farming. Might even go for an S2
@1993bassmasta
Even though Cantarella doesn't have a dps that has perfect synergies with her outro, she is still undervalued just like Zhezhi was. The role compression Cantarella offers is great with her combat roles: healing, coordinated attacks, skill amplify, which is more versatile alongside havoc, and i feel she does more damage than other sub dps characters except Brant. This list is S0 R1, but Cantarella is one of the best hybrid characters with investment
@A_ShinySuicune
I remember back in 1.0 most CCs were "skip Jiyan, pull Yinlin cuz pull value" and oh boy did she just fall off while Jiyan dominates Whiwa beside Changli and Camellya. Even with Xiangli Yao I prefer to play him with Changli Brant duo.
@FakeAndGamer
I only pulled Roccia because I accidentally got her weapon...twice at like 5 pity, pulling for a Variation I knew she was bad and not worth wishes.... and I was wrong. Maybe her sheet numbers arent top tier, and getting knocked out of her plunges without her s1 is cancer and wtf, f u Kuro why would you tie that to a sequence node on an already mid unit but all her shortcomings aside, I dont even want to play this game without her now The grouping is lifechanging, even with Camellya. Camellya's AoE is big but the game is an asshole and insists on moving you towards a target instead of letting you freely position(if someone knows a setting to fix that lmk 🙏) during her spin. This leaves me constantly wanting to die as she spins just out of range of the whole pack. Open world, tacet fields, and daily waveplate grind is just so much more enjoyable with Roccia and she often finishes enemies off before Camellya even takes the field. How much she helps trivialize Wimpering Wastes is great too. Would pull again, no ragerts. 😬
@ernestojrlegaspi6958
She hates Roccia too much
@ChangeOfHearts39
Cantarella changed the game for me , My Jinshi goes WILD 😂
@vxnishexe
The disrespect on Cantarella is crazy. People keep misunderstanding that their takes depend on their value of pulls but don't spend time learning the kit and building the character. I have all the characters with their signatures and never spent on lunite to get pulls, only bought lunite for Jinhsi and Sanhua skin and Insider Channel. I understand Roccia is not that good but so is Yinlin but they're not "good" because I didn't take the time to learn them, now I know how to use them properly I can pull out the most potential out of them and to be honest Cantarella is busted af and shouldn't be part as the "Worst Limited". Also I believe all the limited 5 stars have uses in certain situations but I feel like all of them are balanced, as someone who plays all of these units. The only take I believe is valid is just their pull value, but even then just play the game and you will have enough resources to pull any character. I fear that these type of takes are the reasons some players don't enjoy the game because let's say someone loves yinlin and wants to grab her but sees this video and they think damn shes horrible, then they will not pull for her but they really want her, that's not a good way to introduce new players into the game. I would say hey you want her? Pull her because theres plenty of events and things you can do in the Overworld to grind resources back from those pulls, maybe not be able to get every signature because you have to have a little bit of luck but the 50/50 saves u so much and on top of that the guaranteed signature banner is a life saver as well. In short this is not genshin or honkai this game is actually pretty generous when it comes to their banners 50/50 and guaranteed signatures and also the balance with all the limited units, fuck even the standard units have their uses too if you took the time to learn and read all their kits. It would make more sense if you posted the title as "My personal opinion on who is Wuwa's worth limited.
@AJ-mv4jo
I skipped Roccia because I was waiting to s6 Camellya, but now I'm going to make sure to get her.
@pooyayaddasht2419
Roccia slander in 2025 is crazy 😂
@bobbu3250
i just know it isnt our glorious Brant Wuthering Waves
@rjthom5
As your criteria is how necessary a unit is vs a different option (i.e. Roccia when there's Sanhua), I'd nominate Camellya. Havoc Rover (S6) is very close to her in output, and is very free.
@TwoBadYe
putting roccia with whiwa being in the game is crazy work
@Ullarc
6:20 Brave words for somebody within 'Mama Mia!' distance. XD If Kuro decided not to nerf WiWa to the ground I would agree with your points, but because the mode is point based, this is the one time where I think being an 'Overkill' unit in the given mode is a good selling point. You can use both Camellya and Roccia to utterly obliterate one side and give your other team more leeway.
@lsnexus2080
Cantarella not doing personal damage vs Yinlin is a bad take. she's doing more than Yinlin. the damage dealt in mirage state + perception drain and Jolt and Ult all together in 1 rotation does more than yinlin does. and for those who got her copies, then even better as Cantarella at S1 can solo TOA while S1 Yinlin cannot. the main reason is most people build cantarella as a pure buffer. try using havoc eclipse on her and use a main dps Cantarella with sanhua and SK. compare it to Yinlin hypercarry and see how big the difference is. even in a team of non hypercarry, you will see cantarella doing higher damage in a rotation. Yinlin doesn't have strong nukes. you will see her ult only doing 6k each hit x8 or x10 if im not mistaken on support build and 10k if you use main dps set for electro set. that's 60k or 100k total. include her off-field and she barely do 200k in a rotation. cantarella already is above 200k per rotation with perception drain and ult and when slotted to teams, cantarella teams are a lot stronger than Yinlin Teams. so i do not know why the statement is below Yinlin's personal damage. considering cantarella can even heal the team. and for whales going for multiple copies at S2 onwards, Cantarella's strength is several times higher than Yinlin and its not even comparable at this point. Cantarella's damage as subdps is second to Brant. She'll get even better once her main dps(best partner) unit comes out
@bobbu3250
ive been insulted with that xiangli yao comment in the yinlin section
@Izanatte
Playing canterella as main dps with s6, super satisfying
@zuul81
I really like grouping so I think roccia is okay for that alone.
@Juice-Chan